In his March 23 sermon (according to The Huffington Post), Phoenix, Arizona, pastor Steven Anderson of Faithful World Baptist Church explained in detail why women in the congregation must refrain from speaking during services. Citing 1 Timothy 2:11 and 1 Corinthians 14, Anderson said the woman should learn only "in silence." "Now obviously, before the service begins," he conceded, "there's chatting and talking going on that's perfectly legitimate. [And when] we all sing praises to God, of course the ladies should also lift up their voices. But when it's learning time, it's silence time [for females]." He also said, since the comment "Amen" means "That's true," it's inappropriate for females to utter it.